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		<title>By: I Was Wrong: Scrapping the Child Chore Chart for a New Allowance System &#124; Frugal Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Was Wrong: Scrapping the Child Chore Chart for a New Allowance System &#124; Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How Much to Pay for Kid&#8217;s Allowance? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott @ The Passive Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/kids-get-small-allowance/comment-page-1/#comment-6946</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott @ The Passive Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very timely as I was looking for info for allowances.  I struggle with what some of our friends are doing as extreme and also see others just giving money away.  We have several friends that believe that children don&#039;t deserve an allowance but should just be given the basics like food, shelter, and lots of love.  Then the other extreme where they basically give kids whatever they ask for, including an ipod or cell phone.  I received an allowance as a child but I&#039;m not sure the structure worked for me as I was able to manipulate the system.  Yes, we can be very creative when we are young.  I would always just do the bare minimum to receive the allowance and nothing extra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very timely as I was looking for info for allowances.  I struggle with what some of our <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/7-people-you-absolutely-need-in-your-life/" target='_blank'>friends</a> are doing as extreme and also see others just giving money away.  We have several <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/7-people-you-absolutely-need-in-your-life/" target='_blank'>friends</a> that believe that children don&#8217;t deserve an <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a> but should just be given the basics like food, shelter, and lots of love.  Then the other extreme where they basically give kids whatever they ask for, including an ipod or <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/go/cellphone.php/" target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>cell phone</a>.  I received an <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a> as a child but I&#8217;m not sure the structure worked for me as I was able to manipulate the system.  Yes, we can be very creative when we are young.  I would always just do the bare minimum to receive the <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a> and nothing extra.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnMarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I went from the smallest allowance to one of the largest when I went to junior high. Prior to that point, we got our age squared, rounded to the nearest nickle. So for instance, at 10, I&#039;d get a dollar. that&#039;s PER WEEK. At 9, I got 80 cents.

In junior high, we started getting $50/month. However, along with that went far great responsibility: buy my own clothes, school supplies, extra beauty supplies (Mom bought plain old cheap shampoo, I bought the fancy schmancy stuff), charity, gifts, summer camp, etc. I kept track of every penny I spent and each year was able to negotiate an increase in my allowance (I think it went all the way up to $75/mo by the time I went away to college).

My point being: If you decide it makes sense to give a larger allowance, you might tie it to larger responsibilities for spending the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I went from the smallest <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a> to one of the largest when I went to junior high. Prior to that point, we got our age squared, rounded to the nearest nickle. So for instance, at 10, I&#8217;d get a dollar. that&#8217;s PER WEEK. At 9, I got 80 cents.</p>
<p>In junior high, we started getting $50/month. However, along with that went far great responsibility: buy my own clothes, school supplies, extra beauty supplies (Mom bought plain old cheap shampoo, I bought the fancy schmancy stuff), charity, <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/go/gifts.php/" target='_blank'>gifts</a>, summer camp, etc. I kept track of every penny I spent and each year was able to <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=227" target='_blank'>negotiate</a> an increase in my <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a> (I think it went all the way up to $75/mo by the time I went away to college).</p>
<p>My point being: If you decide it makes sense to give a larger <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a>, you might tie it to larger responsibilities for spending the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amphritrite, I like what your mom did.  My kids got a similar treatment!!   I did give them money once in awhile....if the budget allowed it...but they helped out around the home....money are not.  They lived through it!!!     
I am glad to see that someone young has the same ideas as this grandma!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amphritrite, I like what your mom did.  My kids got a similar treatment!!   I did give them money once in awhile&#8230;.if the <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/go/budget.php/" target='_blank'>budget</a> allowed it&#8230;but they helped out around the home&#8230;.money are not.  They lived through it!!!<br />
I am glad to see that someone young has the same ideas as this grandma!</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if us adults inflate our salaries a bit you can bet kids do it too!  I like your advice to make them part of the negotiation.  Asking them to provide specific reasons why they should get a raise makes them think about their contributions to the household, a lesson that will serve them well when they start a career.  Out in the real world, it isn&#039;t enough to tell your boss you need a raise because a coworker makes $20k more than you.  If you can produce results, you will lose that argument every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if us adults inflate our salaries a bit you can bet kids do it too!  I like your advice to make them part of the negotiation.  Asking them to provide specific reasons why they should get a raise makes them think about their contributions to the household, a lesson that will serve them well when they start a career.  Out in the real world, it isn&#8217;t enough to tell your boss you need a raise because a coworker makes $20k more than you.  If you can produce results, you will lose that argument every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Amphritrite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amphritrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My children won&#039;t have allowances...period.

I&#039;m not a mother (yet), but I was brought up in a household that never seemed to have enough: enough money, enough clothing, enough on our plates.  We made it as best we could on a soldier&#039;s salary with five kids.  We five kids put in time doing chores to help our ailing mother (she was diagnosed with many diseases in my early childhood, one of them being Lupus), to keep the house clean, and to teach us a sense of responsibility for our domiciles.

We weren&#039;t paid a cent to do this.  We did it because we lived there, because we slept there, because we ate there.  We did it because it was our home.

There were arguments over who had to scoop the kitty box; there was insistent &quot;But I DID that already!&quot; when something was missed with the vacuum.  I&#039;m sure we caused our parents quite a few headaches with our whining.  Money would not have changed how we felt about chores, regardless of how little or how much we earned.  In fact, if we had felt that we DESERVED to be paid to keep the place we lived clean, I imagine there would have been a lot more whining involved.

Here&#039;s the upside: when we needed clothing for school, we had the money enough to choose what we wanted to wear (within reason, of course - I never had an Abercrombie anything like my schoolmates).  When I wanted to see a movie with a pal, my mother didn&#039;t even blink when she handed over a $10 bill.  When I needed bus fare to go downtown for an event, it was given freely.

My mother never kept track of how much she gave us or whether she was on par with other parents.  Us children never found a reason to say, &quot;But MOM, Billy Smith down the street gets $XYZ EVERY MONDAY.  Why can&#039;t we have $XYZ every Monday?&quot; because when we asked for something once in a blue moon, my mother happily opened her wallet and gave it to us.

What did we learn?  No one DESERVES money for keeping their area clean.  It&#039;s a privilege to have a nice home and live with good people.  Money DOES NOT grow on trees, and it must be earned not only through deed, but through good will and manners.  We learned that we didn&#039;t NEED everything that everyone else had; we NEEDED to be happy, but a brand-name anything wasn&#039;t going to give us happiness.  

Bottom line? Don&#039;t pay your kids to do their chores.  Don&#039;t give them money on an every-week or every-two-week basis, because then they&#039;ll start to feel entitled to that.  Reward them for their good deeds; punish them for their bad deeds.  Teach them respect, honesty, and self-worth before pushing cash at them.  You&#039;ll have good kids in the end, I promise, regardless of the lack of allowance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My children won&#8217;t have allowances&#8230;period.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a mother (yet), but I was brought up in a household that never seemed to have enough: enough money, enough <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/ways-to-cut-your-clothing-costs/" target='_blank'>clothing</a>, enough on our plates.  We made it as best we could on a soldier&#8217;s salary with five kids.  We five kids put in time doing chores to help our ailing mother (she was diagnosed with many diseases in my early childhood, one of them being Lupus), to keep the house clean, and to teach us a sense of responsibility for our domiciles.</p>
<p>We weren&#8217;t paid a cent to do this.  We did it because we lived there, because we slept there, because we ate there.  We did it because it was our home.</p>
<p>There were arguments over who had to scoop the kitty box; there was insistent &#8220;But I DID that already!&#8221; when something was missed with the vacuum.  I&#8217;m sure we caused our parents quite a few headaches with our whining.  Money would not have changed how we felt about chores, regardless of how little or how much we earned.  In fact, if we had felt that we DESERVED to be paid to keep the place we lived clean, I imagine there would have been a lot more whining involved.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the upside: when we needed <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/ways-to-cut-your-clothing-costs/" target='_blank'>clothing</a> for school, we had the money enough to choose what we wanted to wear (within reason, of course &#8211; I never had an Abercrombie anything like my schoolmates).  When I wanted to see a movie with a pal, my mother didn&#8217;t even blink when she handed over a $10 bill.  When I needed bus fare to go downtown for an event, it was given freely.</p>
<p>My mother never kept track of how much she gave us or whether she was on par with other parents.  Us children never found a reason to say, &#8220;But MOM, Billy Smith down the street gets $XYZ EVERY MONDAY.  Why can&#8217;t we have $XYZ every Monday?&#8221; because when we asked for something once in a blue moon, my mother happily opened her wallet and gave it to us.</p>
<p>What did we learn?  No one DESERVES money for keeping their area clean.  It&#8217;s a privilege to have a nice home and live with good people.  Money DOES NOT grow on trees, and it must be earned not only through deed, but through good will and manners.  We learned that we didn&#8217;t NEED everything that everyone else had; we NEEDED to be happy, but a brand-name anything wasn&#8217;t going to give us happiness.  </p>
<p>Bottom line? Don&#8217;t pay your kids to do their chores.  Don&#8217;t give them money on an every-week or every-two-week basis, because then they&#8217;ll start to feel entitled to that.  Reward them for their good deeds; punish them for their bad deeds.  Teach them respect, honesty, and self-worth before pushing cash at them.  You&#8217;ll have good kids in the end, I promise, regardless of the lack of <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: LP</title>
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		<dc:creator>LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We learned long ago that giving an allowance (getting something for just being there) taught nothing but socialism.
Our boys had to work to receive payment. 
Letting the dog out, cleaning the basement, doing the yard, getting good grades, helping their Dad, or helping me...
And they had a good life.  :smile: 
It&#039;s easier to give an allowance though. Just so as not to keep up with their responsibilities.

But they earned what&#039;s commonly called a pay check. None of this allowance stuff.
THEY, called it an allowance though, just to keep themselves in line with the rest of their schoolmates.

But I still can&#039;t stand the sound of that word, and now we have grandchildren.
hummmm.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We learned long ago that giving an <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a> (getting something for just being there) taught nothing but socialism.<br />
Our boys had to work to receive payment.<br />
Letting the dog out, cleaning the basement, doing the yard, getting good grades, helping their Dad, or helping me&#8230;<br />
And they had a good life.  <img src='http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It&#8217;s easier to give an <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a> though. Just so as not to keep up with their responsibilities.</p>
<p>But they earned what&#8217;s commonly called a pay check. None of this <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=392" target='_blank'>allowance</a> stuff.<br />
THEY, called it an allowance though, just to keep themselves in line with the rest of their schoolmates.</p>
<p>But I still can&#8217;t stand the sound of that word, and now we have grandchildren.<br />
hummmm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kent @ The Financial Philosopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent @ The Financial Philosopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Ron&#039;s recommendations to find the opportunity to teach children contentment.  To add to these thoughts, I would teach the kids that true &quot;wealth&quot; is not measured by monitary means.  Encourage children to find their gifts that make them special, such as sports, art, music or academics.  If they think hard enough, they will realize that they are already &quot;rich.&quot;

&quot;I tell you that money does not come from virtue but from virtue comes money and every other good of man.&quot; ~ Socrates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Ron&#8217;s recommendations to find the opportunity to teach children contentment.  To add to these thoughts, I would teach the kids that true &#8220;wealth&#8221; is not measured by monitary means.  Encourage children to find their <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/go/gifts.php/" target='_blank'>gifts</a> that make them special, such as sports, art, music or academics.  If they think hard enough, they will realize that they are already &#8220;rich.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I tell you that money does not come from virtue but from virtue comes money and every other good of man.&#8221; ~ Socrates</p>
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