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		<title>By: fathersez</title>
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		<dc:creator>fathersez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly. It is not just in the US that people are feeling like you do, but also in other countries like mine, Malaysia. We had some major bailouts when the Asian Crisis hit us. Perhaps some were genuine bailouts, but some were just rip offs.

I guess when the so called &quot;knowledge economy&quot; was formulated, hard work got thrown out of the window, and it became &quot;what you know&quot;. Slowly it has evolved into &quot;whom you know&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly. It is not just in the US that people are feeling like you do, but also in other countries like mine, Malaysia. We had some major bailouts when the Asian Crisis hit us. Perhaps some were genuine bailouts, but some were just rip offs.</p>
<p>I guess when the so called &#8220;knowledge <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/?p=477" target='_blank'>economy</a>&#8221; was formulated, hard work got thrown out of the window, and it became &#8220;what you know&#8221;. Slowly it has evolved into &#8220;whom you know&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Link roundup: Nine days left edition &#124; Mighty Bargain Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link roundup: Nine days left edition &#124; Mighty Bargain Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wisdom Journal outlines the seven components of an integrity bailout. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Debt Reduction &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link roundup: Nine days left edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival of Debt Reduction &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link roundup: Nine days left edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wisdom Journal outlines the seven components of an integrity bailout. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: December 7, 2008 Link Payday &#124; Uncommon Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>December 7, 2008 Link Payday &#124; Uncommon Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] through when the word &#8220;bailout&#8221; is heard as he asks an incredibly important question: What About an Integrity Bailout?  J.D. over at Get Rich Slowly summarizes The Kiplinger&#8217;s Personal Finance 2008 &#8220;Best [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] through when the word &#8220;bailout&#8221; is heard as he asks an incredibly important question: What About an Integrity Bailout?  J.D. over at Get Rich Slowly summarizes The Kiplinger&#8217;s Personal Finance 2008 &#8220;Best [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Friday Gathering - Learning new things edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Friday Gathering - Learning new things edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joshua @ Accountable Living</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua @ Accountable Living</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points.  If I could add one thing to your list it would be:  Taking accountability for our actions. Learning the art of being responsible for what we have, do, or have done is truly a sign of maturity. It may not always be fun, it may not always be glamorous, but accountability is at the core of integrity. &quot;Bailout&quot; is another word for &quot;mismanagement&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points.  If I could add one thing to your list it would be:  Taking accountability for our actions. Learning the art of being responsible for what we have, do, or have done is truly a sign of maturity. It may not always be fun, it may not always be glamorous, but accountability is at the core of integrity. &#8220;Bailout&#8221; is another word for &#8220;mismanagement&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post! To many of us, this post should serve as a reminder but my fear is that to many it will be a bridge too far. I hate to be pessimistic but I will do my best to provide a positive example to my daughter and those around me.

Like SingleGuyMoney I think it all starts with the last item, self sufficiency AND I would add personal accountability.

Great post. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post! To many of us, this post should serve as a reminder but my fear is that to many it will be a bridge too far. I hate to be pessimistic but I will do my best to provide a positive example to my daughter and those around me.</p>
<p>Like SingleGuyMoney I think it all starts with the last item, self sufficiency AND I would add personal accountability.</p>
<p>Great post. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris @ BuildMyBudget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris @ BuildMyBudget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an excellent post; you couldn&#039;t be more spot on!  It really makes you wonder where we will be in 10-20 years, doesn&#039;t it?  I wonder how consolidated we will be and what big organization will finally be allowed to fail.  Despite the economic and financial implications, allowing some of these organizations to fail just might be the shot of ethics and integrity we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an excellent post; you couldn&#8217;t be more spot on!  It really makes you wonder where we will be in 10-20 years, doesn&#8217;t it?  I wonder how consolidated we will be and what big organization will finally be allowed to fail.  Despite the economic and financial implications, allowing some of these organizations to fail just might be the shot of ethics and integrity we need.</p>
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		<title>By: Lise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a provocative article, Ron! I suspect from what I&#039;ve read of you previously that our politics differ considerably, but I like how you couched this argument in non-political terms. Nice work.

I&#039;m concerned because everyone&#039;s bailing out the investment bankers and auto makers, but no one&#039;s bailing out the middle class. Then again, I think I read a statistic like 1 in 10 people in the U.S. are involved in the auto industry, so not bailing out auto manufacturers could be disastrous. 

On the other hand... there are probably opportunities at places like Toyota and Honda assembly plants in the U.S. (since most foreign cars are still assembled here, these days). They might find people who were experienced with their competitors valuable. Then again, I doubt they have enough positions for everybody...

On your &quot;integrity bailout,&quot; a couple of points:
- &quot;Hard work&quot;; &quot;Quality of time at work, quantity of time at home&quot;: it&#039;s not just hard work, it&#039;s smart work. I believe it&#039;s almost impossible to succeed in this country anymore just by tying oneself to a company. I hesitate to say there&#039;s more security there than there is running your own business. It&#039;s all a crap shoot these days. 

Workers these days need to be free agents; they need to look out for their own interests, AND they need to be conscientious of the ethics of the industry they&#039;re in (where were the whistle blowers at Enron, for example?). I think the reason &quot;millenials&quot; sometimes come across to older adults as being selfish in the work place is because they&#039;re not tied to the &quot;9 to 5 til you&#039;re 65&quot; model, and realize that what they put into the company sometimes has VERY little to do with what they get back. 

Ethics, i.e. doing what&#039;s right. Absolutely. This happens on a consumer level, as well. When we make choices to deal with companies that are unethical or produce poor products (like Wal-Mart, to my mind, or many Chinese companies), we are making a choice about how we want the world to be. 

Buy value rather than appearance: agree completely. Don&#039;t focus entirely on price, either.

Self-sufficiency: I think it&#039;s also important to know when to cut your losses and get someone else to do something for you.  

Also I&#039;d like to argue that there&#039;s a moral difference between bailing out someone who consciously bit off more than they could chew (investment banks) and people who ignorantly got in over their head (homeowners with poor mortgage choices who are going into foreclosure). Unfortunately there&#039;s not going to be much left over to help the actual homeowners after this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a provocative article, Ron! I suspect from what I&#8217;ve read of you previously that our politics differ considerably, but I like how you couched this argument in non-political terms. Nice work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned because everyone&#8217;s bailing out the investment bankers and auto makers, but no one&#8217;s bailing out the middle class. Then again, I think I read a statistic like 1 in 10 people in the U.S. are involved in the auto industry, so not bailing out auto manufacturers could be disastrous. </p>
<p>On the other hand&#8230; there are probably opportunities at places like Toyota and Honda assembly plants in the U.S. (since most foreign cars are still assembled here, these days). They might find people who were experienced with their competitors valuable. Then again, I doubt they have enough positions for everybody&#8230;</p>
<p>On your &#8220;integrity bailout,&#8221; a couple of points:<br />
- &#8220;Hard work&#8221;; &#8220;Quality of time at work, quantity of time at home&#8221;: it&#8217;s not just hard work, it&#8217;s smart work. I believe it&#8217;s almost impossible to succeed in this country anymore just by tying oneself to a company. I hesitate to say there&#8217;s more security there than there is running your own business. It&#8217;s all a crap shoot these days. </p>
<p>Workers these days need to be free agents; they need to look out for their own interests, AND they need to be conscientious of the ethics of the industry they&#8217;re in (where were the whistle blowers at Enron, for example?). I think the reason &#8220;millenials&#8221; sometimes come across to older adults as being selfish in the work place is because they&#8217;re not tied to the &#8220;9 to 5 til you&#8217;re 65&#8243; model, and realize that what they put into the company sometimes has VERY little to do with what they get back. </p>
<p>Ethics, i.e. doing what&#8217;s right. Absolutely. This happens on a consumer level, as well. When we make choices to deal with companies that are unethical or produce poor products (like Wal-Mart, to my mind, or many Chinese companies), we are making a choice about how we want the world to be. </p>
<p>Buy value rather than appearance: agree completely. Don&#8217;t focus entirely on price, either.</p>
<p>Self-sufficiency: I think it&#8217;s also important to know when to cut your losses and get someone else to do something for you.  </p>
<p>Also I&#8217;d like to argue that there&#8217;s a moral difference between bailing out someone who consciously bit off more than they could chew (investment banks) and people who ignorantly got in over their head (homeowners with poor <a href="http://www.thewisdomjournal.com/Blog/go/mortgage.php/" target='_blank'>mortgage</a> choices who are going into foreclosure). Unfortunately there&#8217;s not going to be much left over to help the actual homeowners after this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SingleGuyMoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>SingleGuyMoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like all of your points but #7 is a big one for me. I think this country would be a lot better if more people stopped blaming someone else for their own problems. Take responsibility and make changes happen for yourself. 

http://www.singleguymoney.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like all of your points but #7 is a big one for me. I think this country would be a lot better if more people stopped blaming someone else for their own problems. Take responsibility and make changes happen for yourself. </p>
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